tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8839412.post1051570053814705477..comments2024-03-19T07:48:54.021-06:00Comments on Gus Van Horn: Quick Roundup 434Gus Van Hornhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05126749051688217781noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8839412.post-86434245884112932832009-05-19T20:48:52.747-06:002009-05-19T20:48:52.747-06:00Thanks for the further information. I think I now ...Thanks for the further information. I think I now already know more about Wikipedia than I ever wanted to.Gus Van Hornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05126749051688217781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8839412.post-31374306311017878322009-05-19T20:05:38.018-06:002009-05-19T20:05:38.018-06:00Wikipedia has a byzantine procedure for everything...Wikipedia has a byzantine procedure for everything (even a special <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Ayn_Rand&diff=289561616&oldid=289361054" REL="nofollow">Ayn Rand arbitration page</A>). So it should be no surprise that the Valliant deletions are now contested. See <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Objectivism_and_Ayn_Rand_Cross_Talk#Valliant_revisited" REL="nofollow">Cross_Talk#Valliant_revisited</A>. <br /><br />No doubt some of the material will be back on Wiki before too long. Removing everything seems a bit hamfisted. Luckily, nothing ever dies on Wikipedia -- it remains lurking in the database, every last change of comma . . . waiting for resurrection.<br /><br />Of interest: it was Valliant himself who put almost all of the contested materials up on Wikipedia, through an '<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/72.199.110.160" REL="nofollow">anonymous</A>' account. Apparently adding cites for you own book is a 'conflict of interest' with the Wikipedia honchos. <br /><br />He is now subject to <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:72.199.110.160#Topic_ban" REL="nofollow">a topic ban until November</A> . . .William Scott Scherkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13481476585908252323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8839412.post-12751345976216564742009-05-19T14:22:00.000-06:002009-05-19T14:22:00.000-06:00"Sure, the Wikipedia rules prevent them from addin..."<I>Sure, the Wikipedia rules prevent them from </I>adding<I> any arbitrary content that they might like</I>."<br /><br /> <B>Almost</B>. <br /><br />If you manage to get your ravings published in book form <B>before</B> attempting to incorporate them into <I>Wikipedia</I>, then you're golden.Gus Van Hornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05126749051688217781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8839412.post-56710014923019970482009-05-19T14:10:00.000-06:002009-05-19T14:10:00.000-06:00On controversial subjects, Wikipedia seems prone t...On controversial subjects, Wikipedia seems prone to a phenomenon in which the angriest, most dedicated activists--and those with the most spare time on their hands--get to have their way though sheer persistence. <br /><br />Sure, the Wikipedia rules prevent them from <I>adding</I> any arbitrary content that they might like. But if all they're trying to do is to quash a source, especially if that source goes against the gang's "consensus," then the power of exclusion is all that they need.Andrew Daltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11001665674703307354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8839412.post-41043289075013322552009-05-19T11:02:00.000-06:002009-05-19T11:02:00.000-06:00Thanks, John.
The comments with hyperlinks presen...Thanks, John.<br /><br />The comments with hyperlinks presently occur in <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Objectivism_and_Ayn_Rand_Cross_Talk" REL="nofollow">mid page</A>. Click on "Proposed removal of references" as directly linking seems not to work.Gus Van Hornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05126749051688217781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8839412.post-12339331865564176952009-05-19T09:32:00.000-06:002009-05-19T09:32:00.000-06:00With regards to James Valliant's book, all I could...With regards to James Valliant's book, all I could find was this link:<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Objectivism_and_Ayn_Rand_Cross_TalkAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03560477246248417263noreply@blogger.com