tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8839412.post1227381925351269800..comments2024-03-19T07:48:54.021-06:00Comments on Gus Van Horn: Three on the ObamaCare RulingGus Van Hornhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05126749051688217781noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8839412.post-84638777473739484182012-07-03T02:47:58.862-06:002012-07-03T02:47:58.862-06:00Steve,
I'm not worried that regular readers w...Steve,<br /><br />I'm not worried that regular readers would make such a mistake, but your and RussK's comments caused me to realize that I might have looked, to a reasonable passer-by, like I was happy with Roberts's ruling/looking too hard for a silver lining. So I took the opportunity to be clear that I think it's a bad ruling.Gus Van Hornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05126749051688217781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8839412.post-68251547973302859742012-07-02T20:50:54.483-06:002012-07-02T20:50:54.483-06:00‘I did NOT mean to imply that I supported, in any ...‘I did NOT mean to imply that I supported, in any way, Roberts's upholding ObamaCare for any reason.’<br />I don’t think anyone could ever mistake you for a supporter of ObamaCare, Gus under any circumstances but do think it’s human nature to search for a silver lining. There is really nothing in those links I really disagree with. Roberts may have been attempting some type of booby trap for the liberals and he may even succeed. On the other hand, it is also possible he may believe sincerely everything he said. We may never know.<br />My point however is that the best case scenario is that Roberts traded possible short term advantages for definite long term bad consequences. Here I throw up my hands in exasperation and say: Isn’t that just like a typical conservative!”<br />But if he did buy us some time, we owe it to ourselves to use it wisely.<br />In most European countries, socialized medicine is nothing more than a tax. A free system exists beside it, for those who can pay. (Only a few countries like Canada, Cuba, and North Korea completely outlaw private medicine). I can think of no reason why the present judges would deem a fully socialized system of medicine unconstitutional. In fact based on the recent decision it seems more constitutional that the fascist abomination that Obama gifted us. <br />I often wonder what would happen if the people who wrote the constitution where brought forward in time and invited to be Supreme Court judges and then asked to judge on some of these cases. I’m sure their responses would be enlightening (and possibly hilarious).Steve Dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8839412.post-61547760249527431662012-07-02T14:50:29.633-06:002012-07-02T14:50:29.633-06:00Too bad Cox and Forkum aren't still making pol...Too bad Cox and Forkum aren't still making political cartoons...Gus Van Hornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05126749051688217781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8839412.post-32795722457255721042012-07-02T14:04:59.167-06:002012-07-02T14:04:59.167-06:00The conservative/libertarian reactions going on ab...The conservative/libertarian reactions going on about the Commerce Clause remind me too much of the whistling-past-the-graveyard confidence among some associates of Hank Rearden's in getting the Equalization of Opportunity Bill repealed.<br /><br />The *visual* I get out of that is a political cartoon of Chief Justice Roberts locking a door marked "Commerce Clause", and the door is in a wall full of huge holes marked "Slaughterhouse cases", "Kelo" etc. and a brand-new, extra-big one marked "Taxation Power", with a giant creatures outside, named "Government", grinning slyly.<br /><br />I wish I could draw worth crap.Jim Maynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8839412.post-51310065517005665612012-07-02T08:23:10.437-06:002012-07-02T08:23:10.437-06:00Thanks for your comments. To be clear, I did NOT m...Thanks for your comments. To be clear, I did NOT mean to imply that I supported, in any way, Roberts's upholding ObamaCare for any reason. There are politically savvy rulings, such as Marbury vs. Madison, but I don't regard this as one of them, considering that whatever good there is has been <a href="http://gusvanhorn.blogspot.com/2012/06/friday-four_29.html#1" rel="nofollow">severely undercut</a>.Gus Van Hornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05126749051688217781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8839412.post-33669887076253292792012-07-02T06:41:54.203-06:002012-07-02T06:41:54.203-06:00Except long after Obama is gone, Obamacare will st...Except long after Obama is gone, Obamacare will still be with us. I think at best if both of those articles are completely true, Roberts may have bought us all only a few years.<br />The country won’t be saved for long by crass political maneuvering pitting branches of the government against each other and substituting a fascist medical system for a socialist one.Steve Dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8839412.post-14910833029122513812012-07-02T05:50:52.470-06:002012-07-02T05:50:52.470-06:00I don't like the idea of a member of the supre...I don't like the idea of a member of the supreme court, let alone the Chief Justice, playing politics. If Roberts did in fact change his vote to provide ammunition to an upcoming election, then politics is all it can be called. Not only would such an action deal a blow to the integrity of the court, but who knows how damaging Roberts' decision of calling a penalty a tax will have in future rulings. There are years of precedent regarding commerce clause abuse, has Roberts just ushered in a new form of rights violation? If he didn't want ObomneyCare, he could have ended it by joining the justices who voted against it.RussKnoreply@blogger.com