tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8839412.post4521121629677202306..comments2024-03-19T07:48:54.021-06:00Comments on Gus Van Horn: Secular Anti-HumanismGus Van Hornhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05126749051688217781noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8839412.post-58598640801613480062010-09-02T14:58:02.189-06:002010-09-02T14:58:02.189-06:00Madmax,
What's interesting about the posts I&...Madmax,<br /><br />What's interesting about the posts I've looked at is both times, I ended up addressing what's wrong with what Hume said. And yet, I could have just as well elaborated on something useful that he brought up.<br /><br />It's a good blog to visit from time to time from the standpoint of flexing one's mental muscles.<br /><br />GusGus Van Hornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05126749051688217781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8839412.post-33435781002171864082010-09-02T13:43:22.695-06:002010-09-02T13:43:22.695-06:00More important, the people it WILL appeal to philo...<i>More important, the people it WILL appeal to philosophically (i.e., cynics) don't see ideas as important (or ABLE to be important). All they can do is scoff about how "stupid" everyone is and complain about the "inevitable" decline of our civilization.</i><br /><br />This describes the HBD movement to a T. Its a movement full of cynics as determinism must inevitably end up in cynicism. Still, I am glad that you comment on Secular Right from time to time because, as you say, they do occasionally make interesting points however flawed.madmaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14375140131881725965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8839412.post-4699283114083876572010-09-02T12:11:02.025-06:002010-09-02T12:11:02.025-06:00Madmax,
I think you characterize this breed of co...Madmax,<br /><br />I think you characterize this breed of conservatism very well.<br /><br />I can't see it taking over the conservative movement, its lip-service to rationality by way of science not withstanding. <br /><br />It lacks emotional appeal: How could you rally behind it? More important, the people it WILL appeal to philosophically (i.e., cynics) don't see ideas as important (or ABLE to be important). All they can do is scoff about how "stupid" everyone is and complain about the "inevitable" decline of our civilization.<br /><br />GusGus Van Hornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05126749051688217781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8839412.post-24145516989509780412010-09-02T11:31:40.629-06:002010-09-02T11:31:40.629-06:00Gus,
I occasionally visit the Secular Right blog....Gus,<br /><br />I occasionally visit the Secular Right blog. I find their worldview to be similar to that of the Human Bio-Diversity Conservatives (most notably Steve Salier). These people are heavily influenced by evolutionary psychology which means that they have a strong determinist bent. Interestingly, even though they are mostly atheists or agnostics, they essentially agree with the core components of Conservative thought especially Original Sin which they have secularized with evolutionary science.<br /><br />I have been referring to these types of Conservatives as the "Evolutionary Right" and, IMO, they are a type of mirror image of the Left. They are collectivist but not a one-world type of collectivist. Their collectivism is usually an ethnic or racial collectivism which many of them will argue is necessitated by evolutionary science (this is most so for the racialists who are very common among secular Rightists). They are also skeptics but Burkean ones as they all worship at the alter of traditions-worship. This makes them very sympathetic to traditional social Conservatism especially with regards to sexual mores. <br /><br />The Evolutionary Right type of Conservatives like David Hume of the Secular Right blog are not mainstream Conservatives; indeed they hold mainstream Conservatives in contempt (as they hold the more free market Conservatives in contempt largely because the Evolutionary Right Conservatives are all anti-immigration and pro-protectionism). But I do sense that this type of Conservatism is growing. Its an open question for me if a secular Conservatism can ever take hold of the Right. The battle is in essence between a materialist conservatism and the old idealist version.madmaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14375140131881725965noreply@blogger.com