tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8839412.post4955436923733320809..comments2024-03-19T07:48:54.021-06:00Comments on Gus Van Horn: Integrity Ban to be Lifted?Gus Van Hornhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05126749051688217781noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8839412.post-17587876888919222692010-06-01T06:13:25.865-06:002010-06-01T06:13:25.865-06:00Madmax,
What this person is doing is (1) ignoring...Madmax,<br /><br />What this person is doing is (1) ignoring an essential difference between the BSA and the military: the former is a private organization that should be allowed to determine who will and will not become scoutmasters, while the latter is a government institution that should not be able to make such calls without good reason; and (2) ignoring the (legitimate) reason that men and women don't share living quarters in the military (and youth organizations may wish to discriminate against certain classifications of adults watching children): Adult men are generally stronger than women and children.<br /><br />That's the sleight-of-hand. The author also somehow expects us to forget that many straight males would react in a most unpleasant way to an unwanted sexual advance, and that gays have never thought about or realized this before.<br /><br />Thanks for pointing that one out.<br /><br />GusGus Van Hornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05126749051688217781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8839412.post-78921821950637163392010-05-28T14:44:29.126-06:002010-05-28T14:44:29.126-06:00Gus,
I know this is an old post but I recently ca...Gus,<br /><br />I know this is an old post but I recently came across an argument against gays int the military that I haven't seen before. I wonder what you think of it.<br /><br />http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/016592.html<br /><br />I think there is a sleight of hand going on but I can't put my finger on it.madmaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14375140131881725965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8839412.post-77804150451296763242010-02-04T05:30:35.863-06:002010-02-04T05:30:35.863-06:00Matt,
Thanks. I'll make a point of stopping b...Matt,<br /><br />Thanks. I'll make a point of stopping by there when I have a bit more time on my hands. <br /><br />And, yes. I'm with Uncle Jimbo, who is a good read.<br /><br />Thanks,<br /><br />GusGus Van Hornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05126749051688217781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8839412.post-60327384392326552832010-02-03T21:11:22.264-06:002010-02-03T21:11:22.264-06:00Hey Gus,
I need to say, checkout Blackfive more i...Hey Gus,<br /><br />I need to say, checkout Blackfive more if you can. That post link I provided was only one of other views on the topic. Blackfive is a group of amazing, smart, worldly guys. Particularly, Uncle Jimbo! He is a hoot! I had the honor of meeting him once, he's something. This is his take...I think you will agree, and I'll admit, he makes a good case. http://www.blackfive.net/main/2010/02/dadt-time-for-it-to-go.htmlMatthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05191971738479291964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8839412.post-33421606378946547532010-02-03T20:21:42.478-06:002010-02-03T20:21:42.478-06:00Jenn,
Thanks for the catch! The new job is leavin...Jenn,<br /><br />Thanks for the catch! The new job is leaving me precious little time to write or edit, so a few of those get through once in a while.<br /><br />Matt,<br /><br />You're welcome, and thanks both for the compliment and expressing your disagreement with me respectfully.<br /><br />That said, All BlackFive does in quoting what that law says is (1) State the obvious -- that the government can decide who qualifies for military service. No argument there, and (2) Repeat the same objections to gay service that I personally saw were moot, and have heard aren't a problem in militaries that do allow openly gay people to serve.<br /><br />That said, the fact that BlackFive is making such a big deal out of this is disappointing, and indicates that the military may not be as far along as I thought. <br /><br />Does this mean that now isn't the right time? I still think not.<br /><br />GusGus Van Hornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05126749051688217781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8839412.post-62369496659096640582010-02-03T16:14:17.255-06:002010-02-03T16:14:17.255-06:00Hi Gus. I really enjoy your writing. Sure wish I c...Hi Gus. I really enjoy your writing. Sure wish I could write a fraction as well as you. Anyhoo, on this topic, I think I disagree...succumbing and being satisfied with the current "brain fart" society we live in today (shortsighted ethically/morally)...I take the traditionalist view of excluding gays on principle and the military's own (exclusive) law. This piece from Blackfive says it quite well - particularly the last paragraph... http://www.blackfive.net/main/2010/02/dont-ask-dont-tell-what-does-it-really-say.html<br /><br />Be well, and thanks for your service.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05191971738479291964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8839412.post-63466959310667585562010-02-03T14:12:09.472-06:002010-02-03T14:12:09.472-06:00Gus, that last sentence about "gays openly se...Gus, that last sentence about "gays openly serving in the military" makes it sound like gay people are embarrassed to admit their military service, not that military people are embarrassed (and discouraged) out of admitting that they're gay. :0)<br /><br />Word order can make a BIIIIIG difference.Jennifer Snowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00039865566870992465noreply@blogger.com