Strong-Armed by Hand-Holding?

Thursday, January 08, 2026

In a recent Dear Abby column, the organizer of a social dinner group faces the following conundrum: [A] new wife to the group has instigated praying in the restaurant, along with holding hands as we pray.

The conundrum arises because, (1) oddly enough, not every member of the dinner group is religious, and even some who are do not feel comfortable praying that way; and (2) the practice, in the context of a social gathering in a public place, causes many of the participants to feel awkward about protesting what the instigator (I love that term here!) may well believe is a friendly gesture.

Nobody likes having words put into their mouths, which such rituals can easily do.

The answer is decent, although I obviously would find humor in (and would not myself say) silent prayer is just as effective as praying aloud.

The question got me thinking about other times I've bumped into this practice, which is somewhat common in my neck of the woods. I have most often encountered it before meals in the homes of people I know to be religious (and who know I am not). Like others in this Facebook discussion, I'll hold hands, but not bow my head, close my eyes, pray, or say Amen.

Were I to summarize my thinking, in those situations, it's along the lines of Their house, their rules. They see themselves as being inclusive. As long as they don't make an issue out of my level of participation, I'm fine with that.

The differences between what I usually encounter and what is discussed in the column are that (1) the woman wanting the prayer circle isn't the host or organizer of the gathering, and so lacks the standing to initiate or enforce the practice; and (2) it's at least a semi-public gathering, where many will likely see the whole group as religious.

The instigator could either genuinely see her ritual as a legitimate way to bond or could be trying to misuse etiquette to strong-arm the group into doing the ritual. Good will, as a foundation of etiquette, obviously precludes the latter and demands polite, but firm pushback against it.

In more public settings, which the discussion group addresses, I think my practice is warranted -- so long as one has a legitimate reason to participate in such a gathering in the first place! (I'm thinking of things like a workplace social event hosted by a boss who is religious, or an impromptu post-game meal of families after a youth soccer match.) It's easier to get blindsided, but also harder to appear to support religion.

Those are my preliminary thoughts on considering the possibility of running into this in public settings. The discussion group raises a couple of things I never considered, such as the possibility of making oneself play into stereotypes about atheism by being inappropriately confrontational and, on the positive side of the ledger, of "spotting the other atheists" during the prayer. (One person claims to have made friends this way.)

If you have other thoughts, I'd be interested in hearing them.

-- CAV

3 comments:

Snedcat said...

Yo, Gus, just my own neuroticism here, but my immediate reaction would be irritation at being asked to hold hands. Do you realize how dirty people's hands are? The considerations of intellectual hygiene would come second. (I might add this is one of the one-hand-countable-and-not-just-one-finger-left-over points on which I agree with Trump. He's germophobic and prefers bowing to shaking hands.)

Dinwar said...

I have politely excused myself from such things. Occasionally, among people I otherwise have reasons to keep the peace with (family, friends, and the like) I'll find an excuse to do something else while they're praying--"You go ahead, I'll watch the stove", that sort of thing. It lets me avoid it, takes care of a necessary task, and gives everyone a reason they can live with. At work, the few times I've encountered it I've politely but firmly absented myself, on the grounds that I find it exceptionally rude to pretend to believe something I do not.

I've found that the majority of people accept a firm, polite refusal in the moment--they're completely baffled, unable to understand that people don't share their beliefs, so default to generic nonconfrontation. A few have tried to convert me after the prayer is over, at which point I go full history nerd on them until they go away. I've always loved the Middle Ages and you can't study that time period without understanding Christian theology. Usually it doesn't take long; a few choice quotes, especially the one attributed to Jesus about not being public about prayer, is enough to convince most of them they don't want to continue the discussion.

Somewhat related: We took the kids to a Christmas parade a while back and a street preacher decided to preach in front of us. We encouraged the kids to sing carols ("Rudolf", "Frosty", "Let It Snow", the non-religious ones). A bunch of other kids joined in. And it turns out grade school kids can sing carols far longer than wanna-be preachers can try to shout over them. And even religious people prefer listening to kids sing at a Christmas parade than listening to a preacher. People clapped when he went away.

Gus Van Horn said...

Snedcat,

I love the hygienic objection to the act of holding hands! I had not thought of that.

Dinwar,

The polite refusal route you describe is preferable, but I so seldom encounter prayer (and have been an atheist for so long) that I no longer associate "sit down to eat" with "bless the food" -- and so end up ambushed in place.

Not the best, but I am secure that I am not being taken for a Christian in such circumstances. For example, I had a civil conversation about the Bible with one host, who offered to send me one in a not-sanctimonious way. I replied, "Please don't send me a Bible," and my request was honored.

Gus